Monday, 1 October 2012

how to misrpresent the doctrines of grace part 3

Calvinism: Limited Atonement

As a result of the erroneous belief that God elected (chose) only some to be saved, apart from any conditions for salvation (Unconditional Election), the Calvinists formed the doctrine of "Limited Atonement."
The false doctrine of Limited Atonement states that Jesus Christ died only for the ones God has unconditionally elected (chosen) to save, from the foundation of the world.
Therefore, Jesus sacrifice on the cross for sin was only for a select, or limited, group and not for all.
Thus the atonement for sins given by Jesus death was limited to the unconditionally elected, not all people.



as explained in the last post on unconditional election as i demnstated this individual did not understand the doctrine nor does he take into account the biblical support of such passages as ephesian 2 8- 10, romans ch 4 -5 and titus 3:4 -7 which are the general passage that exegeted to reveal the 2nd doctrine
had they made this kind of study this refutaton would not have been made in the first place. having said this we now turn our attention to the 3rd refutation

to make such a bold assertion as this one "The false doctrine of Limited Atonement" would imply you would have some knowledge of the doctrine
so now let us see arguments


In direct contract, the Bible teaches that the gospel of Jesus Christ is for all.
If the gospel is not for all, why did Jesus commission the Apostles to go out and teach all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature? - Mark 16:15-16
 God wills all to be saved and Jesus Christ gave Himself a ransom to all, to pay the price to free all the world (all sinners) from the bondage of sin – 1 Timothy 2:4-6
Furthermore, the blood of Christ can wash away anyone’s sin when they are willing to walk in the light of Jesus Christ to obey His commandments – 1 John 1:7; 1 John 2:1-2
The Bible teaches Jesus atoning blood makes it possible for all to be saved. All who are willing to come to Him in obedience to be saved. God loved the world, God gave His son for the sins of the world, and whosoever will believe and obey Him will have eternal life – John 3:16-17
Thank God, that Jesus blood is not limited, but is available for all who will accept it
 

it so useful in this study for us to follow the logic in such arguments that try to replace a air tight doctrine that address the actual atonement .. limited atonement is not sole addressing who is saved (the elect) but is addressing another issue the depth or scope of the atonement as in does actually have specific pupose in its application .. does it actually save those it was mde for ... or as the writer makes the point for us "The Bible teaches Jesus atoning blood makes it possible for all to be saved" with a statement such as this there is no security and no definate result .. hence this why historic arminin theology deby that people can be saved
so now we come to a problem in this theology does the blood of christ "save all" or just makes
"people savable" which is true and which is false .. both can not correct

we'll take two of these 5 example verse to prove how this arminain has got no ground for his claim .. the ones I find to be most devastating to this man understanding are from first john 1 and 2
because they speak of anactual, atonement that saves who it s deemed to save but if his statement on "making people savavle" is true then these statements from 1 john have no meaning as thy say the comlete opposite ... they teach that he actually saves and not just makes them saveable
any breif reading of the 1st 2 chpters of jon, let alone a study willl reveal that 1 John ch. 1-2 shows that there is a specificity in whom he dies for the sheep and its is a real atonement